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This week's seed: Speedy Style

Gotta go fast

The Weekly Seed is open to anyone, and we encourage you to to share your experiences, stories, and tactics over the course of your run.

The rules are as follows:

• The Weekly Seed begins from the date this thread is posted and lasts about seven days.
• Make sure you are running the correct version of Cogmind (see thread subject).
• Enter the seed and abort your current game to initiate the seed (more details are below).
• Verify you are not running the tutorial and that the screenshot below of the Level -10 entry matches your seed
• Play through the game once. This is a friendly event and we are all honest people.
• When finished, post your scoresheet here (it should be the newest file in /scores) and any other screenshots/stories/strategies you wish to share with the community.
• If you want to share details about the seed or your approach, make sure you use spoiler tags.
• Due to the spoilerific nature of this thread, be sure to avoid reading details about the seed if you haven't completed your run.

Good luck and have fun!





HOW TO ENTER A SEED

Press F1 to go to the MENU, select OPTIONS, select Seed, and enter this week's seed:




Select GAME, select ABORT:




If you have followed the steps [Manual seed applied: Speedy Style] should display in the log window.

Congratulations on entering the seed, now get in there!

[Enno]

..wtf ! found the access !! i hacked the last terminal to open the door and yes it worked.
i was so happy, but...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

...what is that. i stand right in front of and cant shoot the last (protection?-)-case.
thats really unfair imo because i cant do anything but die. no other option...and i hacked the door. now im really pissed !.
i hoped the hunters and swamers shoot a hole in that fucking case but nothing...really frustrating. next time...

Spoiler: scoresheet (click to show/hide)

Cogmind - Alpha 6

Name: Enno

---[ CORE DESTROYED ]---

 Performance
-------------
Evolutions (9)             4500
Robots Destroyed (112)     560
Value Destroyed (4312)     4312
Prototype IDs (10)         200
Alien Tech Identified (0)  0
Bonus (0)                  0
              TOTAL SCORE: 9572

 Cogmind
---------
Core Integrity             0/1600
Matter                     72/300
Energy                     35/290
System Corruption          0%
Temperature                Cool (0)
Location                   -1/Access

 Parts
-------
Power (3)
  Particle Reactor
Propulsion (
Utility (10)
Weapon (4)

 Inventory
-----------
Empty

 Peak State
------------
Power
  Micro Fission Core
Propulsion
  Q-Thruster
  Impulse Thruster Array
  Improved Q-Thruster
  Compact Heavy Treads
  Compact Heavy Treads
  Xenon Bombardment Thruster
Utility
  Advanced Targeting Computer
  Advanced Energy Well
  Advanced Energy Well
  Recalibrator
  Improved Focal Shield
  Improved Force Field
  Improved Focal Shield
  Improved Overload Regulator
  Improved Force Field
  Improved Targeting Computer
Weapon
  Linear Accelerator
  Fusion Cannon
  HERF Cannon
  Enhanced Nova Cannon
[Rating: 144]

 Favorites
-----------
Power                      Light Ion Engine
  Engine                   Light Ion Engine
  Power Core               Light Fission Core
  Reactor                  Light Anti-Matter Reactor
Propulsion                 Light Treads
  Treads                   Light Treads
  Wheel                    Wheel
  Leg                      Myomer Leg
  Hover Unit               Gravmag System
  Flight Unit              Flight Unit
Utility                    Medium Storage Unit
  Device                   Improved Terrain Scanner
  Storage                  Medium Storage Unit
  Processor                Advanced Targeting Computer
  Hackware                 Improved System Shield
  Protection               Improved Light Armor Plating
Weapon                     Heavy Assault Rifle
  Energy Gun               Medium Laser
  Energy Cannon            Proton Cannon
  Ballistic Gun            Heavy Assault Rifle
  Ballistic Cannon         Fusion Cannon
  Launcher                 Micro-nuke Launcher
  Special Weapon           Mining Laser

 Stats
-------
Bonus Breakdown            0
Classes Destroyed          13
  Worker                   6
  Builder                  3
  Tunneler                 5
  Hauler                   2
  Recycler                 14
  Watcher                  3
  Swarmer                  22
  Grunt                    25
  Brawler                  4
  Duelist                  3
  Sentry                   9
  Hunter                   9
  Programmer               7
NPCs Destroyed             0
Best Kill Streak           6
  Combat Bots Only         6
Matter Collected           4015
  Salvage Created          5824
Parts Attached             222
  Power                    38
  Propulsion               73
  Utility                  45
  Weapon                   66
Parts Lost                 130
  Power                    18
  Propulsion               44
  Utility                  32
  Weapon                   36
Average Slot Usage (%)     70
  Naked Turns              95
Spaces Moved               3802
  Fastest Speed (%)        714
  Average Speed (%)        150
  Slowest Speed (%)        12
  Overloaded Moves         15
  Propulsion Burnouts      1
  Targets Rammed           4
  Cave-ins Triggered       0
  Teleports                0
Heaviest Build             82
  Greatest Overweight (x)  15
  Average Overweight (x)   1
Largest Inventory          10
  Most Items Carried       10
  Average Items Carried    4
Core Damage Taken          4289
Average Core Remaining (%) 60
  Depth 10 Exit            62
  Depth 9 Exit             91
  Depth 8 Exit             4
  Depth 7 Exit             59
  Depth 6 Exit             81
  Depth 5 Exit             13
  Depth 4 Exit             51
  Depth 3 Exit             91
  Depth 2 Exit             96
Volleys Fired              352
  Largest                  4
  Hottest                  254
Shots Fired                762
  Gun                      632
  Cannon                   121
  Launcher                 0
  Special                  9
  Kinetic                  575
  Thermal                  160
  Explosive                0
  Electromagnetic          26
Shots Hit Robots           495
  Core Hits                208
Overload Shots             0
  Energy Bleed             0
  Heat Surge               0
  Short Circuit            0
  Meltdown                 0
Melee Attacks              0
  Impact                   0
  Slashing                 0
  Piercing                 0
Damage Inflicted           10723
  Projectiles              10597
  Explosions               112
  Melee                    0
  Ramming                  14
  Kinetic                  8157
  Thermal                  2086
  Explosive                0
  Electromagnetic          466
  Impact                   0
  Slashing                 0
  Piercing                 0
Self-Inflicted Damage      85
  Shots                    1
  Rammed                   4
Highest Temperature        538
  Average Temperature      87
  Shutdowns                1
  Energy Bleed             4
  Interference             6
  Matter Decay             1
  Short Circuit            0
  Damage (minor)           1
  Damage (major)           0
  Damage (core)            0
Highest Corruption         11
  Average Corruption       4
  Message Errors           7
  Parts Rejected           1
  Data loss (map)          9
  Data loss (database)     3
  Misfires                 0
  Misdirections            7
  Targeting Errors         4
  Weapon Failures          2
  Depth 8 End              1
  Depth 5 End              2
  Depth 4 End              11
  Depth 3 End              5
  Depth 2 End              8
Haulers Intercepted        2
Robots Corrupted           0
Robots Melted              0
Power Chain Reactions      0
Tactical Retreats          22
Communications Jammed      49
Parts Field Recycled       0
  Retrieved Matter         0
Parts Merge Repaired       0
Drone Launches             4
  Drone Recoveries         0
Derelicts Assembled        0
Traps Triggered            0
  Indirectly               0
Trap Hack Attempts         0
  Triggered                0
  Disarmed                 0
  Reprogrammed             0
  Reused                   0
Machines Hacked            24
  Terminals                19
  Fabricators              2
  Repair Stations          0
  Recycling Units          0
  Scanalyzers              0
  Garrison Access          3
Total Hacks                52
  Successful               17
  Failed                   35
  Catastrophic             13
  Database Lockouts        0
  Manual                   42
  Unauthorized             46
  Terminals                43
  Fabricators              5
  Repair Stations          0
  Recycling Units          0
  Scanalyzers              0
  Garrison Access          4
Terminal Hacks             6
  Record                   0
  Part Schematic           0
  Robot Schematic          0
  Robot Analysis           0
  Prototype ID Bank        2
  Open Door                1
  Level Access Points      1
  Branch Access Points     0
  Emergency Access Points  0
  Machine Index            0
  Terminal Index           2
  Fabricator Index         0
  Repair Station Index     0
  Recycling Unit Index     0
  Scanalyzer Index         0
  Garrison Index           0
  Alert Level              0
  Unreport Threat          0
  Locate Traps             0
  Disarm Traps             0
  Reprogram Traps          0
  Dispatch Records         0
  Maintenance Status       0
  Security Status          0
  Surveillance Status      0
  Patrol Status            0
  Transport Status         0
  Investigation Status     0
  Extermination Status     0
  Reinforcement Status     0
  Assault Status           0
  Recall Investigation     0
  Recall Extermination     0
  Recall Reinforcements    0
  Recall Assault           0
  Hauler Manifests         0
  Registered Components    0
  Registered Prototypes    0
  Zone Layout              0
  Sector Layout            0
  Machine Controls         0
Hacking Detections         18
  Full Trace Events        6
  Feedback Events          1
  Feedback Corruption      1
  Feedback Part Disabled   0
  Feedback Blocked         0
Garrisons Disabled         0
Garrisons Compromised      0
Robot Schematics Acquired  0
  Robots Built             0
  Total Robot Build Rating 0
  Robot Fabrication Matter 0
  Robot Fabrication Time   0
Part Schematics Acquired   0
  Parts Built              0
  Total Part Build Rating  0
  Part Fabrication Matter  0
  Part Fabrication Time    0
Parts Repaired             0
  Part Repair Time         0
Parts Recycled             0
  Recycled Matter          0
  Retrieved Matter         0
Parts Scanalyzed           0
  Part Schematics Acquired 0
  Parts Damaged            0
Robot Analysis Total       0
Robots Rewired             0
Robots Hacked              0
  Non-combat               0
  Combat                   0
  Parse                    0
  Link                     0
  Rebooted                 0
  Overloaded               0
  Assimilated              0
  Manual                   0
  Secondary                0
Robot Hack Failures        0
Allies Hacked              0
Hacks Repelled             0
Total Allies               4
  Largest Group            4
  Highest-Rated Group      20
  Highest-Rated Ally       5
Total Orders               2
  STAY                     0
  GOTO                     0
  ROAM                     0
  FOLLOW                   0
  GUARD                    0
  AID                      0
  BUILD                    0
  TUNNEL                   0
  DROP                     0
  PICKUP                   0
  COLLECT                  0
  EXPLORE                  2
  RETURN                   0
Terraforming Orders        0
  Walls Built              0
  Walls Tunneled           0
Ally Attacks               0
  Total Damage             0
  Kills                    0
Allies Corrupted           0
Allies Melted              0
Peak Influence             454
  Average Influence        157
  Final Influence          17
Maximum Alert Level        2
  Low Security (%)         65
  Level 1                  31
  Level 2                  2
  Level 3                  0
  Level 4                  0
  Level 5                  0
Squads Dispatched          27
  Investigation            11
  Extermination            3
  Reinforcement            10
  Assault                  0
  Garrison                 3
Exploration Rate (%)       15
  Regions Visited          11
Garrisons Visited          0
  Relays Disabled          0
  Generators Disabled      0
Network Hubs Disabled      0
Turns Passed               6065
  Depth 11                 164
  Depth 10                 419
  Depth 9                  149
  Depth 8                  1207
  Depth 7                  855
  Depth 6                  674
  Depth 5                  693
  Depth 4                  896
  Depth 3                  312
  Depth 2                  226
  Depth 1                  470
  Scrapyard                164
  Materials                1775
  Factory                  3118
  Research                 538
  Access                   470

 Prototype IDs
---------------
Heavy Anti-Matter Reactor
Improved Flight Unit
Biomechanical Wings
Improved Q-Thruster
Experimental Q-Thruster
Improved Medium Laser
Heavy Particle Gun
Cooled Pulse Rifle
Heavy Tesla Rifle
Advanced Beam Cannon
Advanced Energy Well
Experimental Reclamation Unit

 Alien Tech Recovered
----------------------
None

 Game
------
Seed: Speedy Style
^Manual?: 1
Play Time: 110 min
Sessions: 1
Mod: N/A
Game No.: 652
ASCII: 1
Keyboard: 1
Movement: Numpad
Fullscreen: 1
Font: 16/Terminus
Map View: 90x57


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[zxc]

..wtf ! found the access !! i hacked the last terminal to open the door and yes it worked.
i was so happy, but...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

...what is that. i stand right in front of and cant shoot the last (protection?-)-case.
thats really unfair imo because i cant do anything but die. no other option...and i hacked the door. now im really pissed !.
i hoped the hunters and swamers shoot a hole in that fucking case but nothing...really frustrating. next time...

Spoiler: scoresheet (click to show/hide)

Cogmind - Alpha 6

Name: Enno

---[ CORE DESTROYED ]---

 Performance
-------------
Evolutions (9)             4500
Robots Destroyed (112)     560
Value Destroyed (4312)     4312
Prototype IDs (10)         200
Alien Tech Identified (0)  0
Bonus (0)                  0
              TOTAL SCORE: 9572

 Cogmind
---------
Core Integrity             0/1600
Matter                     72/300
Energy                     35/290
System Corruption          0%
Temperature                Cool (0)
Location                   -1/Access

 Parts
-------
Power (3)
  Particle Reactor
Propulsion (
Utility (10)
Weapon (4)

 Inventory
-----------
Empty

 Peak State
------------
Power
  Micro Fission Core
Propulsion
  Q-Thruster
  Impulse Thruster Array
  Improved Q-Thruster
  Compact Heavy Treads
  Compact Heavy Treads
  Xenon Bombardment Thruster
Utility
  Advanced Targeting Computer
  Advanced Energy Well
  Advanced Energy Well
  Recalibrator
  Improved Focal Shield
  Improved Force Field
  Improved Focal Shield
  Improved Overload Regulator
  Improved Force Field
  Improved Targeting Computer
Weapon
  Linear Accelerator
  Fusion Cannon
  HERF Cannon
  Enhanced Nova Cannon
[Rating: 144]

 Favorites
-----------
Power                      Light Ion Engine
  Engine                   Light Ion Engine
  Power Core               Light Fission Core
  Reactor                  Light Anti-Matter Reactor
Propulsion                 Light Treads
  Treads                   Light Treads
  Wheel                    Wheel
  Leg                      Myomer Leg
  Hover Unit               Gravmag System
  Flight Unit              Flight Unit
Utility                    Medium Storage Unit
  Device                   Improved Terrain Scanner
  Storage                  Medium Storage Unit
  Processor                Advanced Targeting Computer
  Hackware                 Improved System Shield
  Protection               Improved Light Armor Plating
Weapon                     Heavy Assault Rifle
  Energy Gun               Medium Laser
  Energy Cannon            Proton Cannon
  Ballistic Gun            Heavy Assault Rifle
  Ballistic Cannon         Fusion Cannon
  Launcher                 Micro-nuke Launcher
  Special Weapon           Mining Laser

 Stats
-------
Bonus Breakdown            0
Classes Destroyed          13
  Worker                   6
  Builder                  3
  Tunneler                 5
  Hauler                   2
  Recycler                 14
  Watcher                  3
  Swarmer                  22
  Grunt                    25
  Brawler                  4
  Duelist                  3
  Sentry                   9
  Hunter                   9
  Programmer               7
NPCs Destroyed             0
Best Kill Streak           6
  Combat Bots Only         6
Matter Collected           4015
  Salvage Created          5824
Parts Attached             222
  Power                    38
  Propulsion               73
  Utility                  45
  Weapon                   66
Parts Lost                 130
  Power                    18
  Propulsion               44
  Utility                  32
  Weapon                   36
Average Slot Usage (%)     70
  Naked Turns              95
Spaces Moved               3802
  Fastest Speed (%)        714
  Average Speed (%)        150
  Slowest Speed (%)        12
  Overloaded Moves         15
  Propulsion Burnouts      1
  Targets Rammed           4
  Cave-ins Triggered       0
  Teleports                0
Heaviest Build             82
  Greatest Overweight (x)  15
  Average Overweight (x)   1
Largest Inventory          10
  Most Items Carried       10
  Average Items Carried    4
Core Damage Taken          4289
Average Core Remaining (%) 60
  Depth 10 Exit            62
  Depth 9 Exit             91
  Depth 8 Exit             4
  Depth 7 Exit             59
  Depth 6 Exit             81
  Depth 5 Exit             13
  Depth 4 Exit             51
  Depth 3 Exit             91
  Depth 2 Exit             96
Volleys Fired              352
  Largest                  4
  Hottest                  254
Shots Fired                762
  Gun                      632
  Cannon                   121
  Launcher                 0
  Special                  9
  Kinetic                  575
  Thermal                  160
  Explosive                0
  Electromagnetic          26
Shots Hit Robots           495
  Core Hits                208
Overload Shots             0
  Energy Bleed             0
  Heat Surge               0
  Short Circuit            0
  Meltdown                 0
Melee Attacks              0
  Impact                   0
  Slashing                 0
  Piercing                 0
Damage Inflicted           10723
  Projectiles              10597
  Explosions               112
  Melee                    0
  Ramming                  14
  Kinetic                  8157
  Thermal                  2086
  Explosive                0
  Electromagnetic          466
  Impact                   0
  Slashing                 0
  Piercing                 0
Self-Inflicted Damage      85
  Shots                    1
  Rammed                   4
Highest Temperature        538
  Average Temperature      87
  Shutdowns                1
  Energy Bleed             4
  Interference             6
  Matter Decay             1
  Short Circuit            0
  Damage (minor)           1
  Damage (major)           0
  Damage (core)            0
Highest Corruption         11
  Average Corruption       4
  Message Errors           7
  Parts Rejected           1
  Data loss (map)          9
  Data loss (database)     3
  Misfires                 0
  Misdirections            7
  Targeting Errors         4
  Weapon Failures          2
  Depth 8 End              1
  Depth 5 End              2
  Depth 4 End              11
  Depth 3 End              5
  Depth 2 End              8
Haulers Intercepted        2
Robots Corrupted           0
Robots Melted              0
Power Chain Reactions      0
Tactical Retreats          22
Communications Jammed      49
Parts Field Recycled       0
  Retrieved Matter         0
Parts Merge Repaired       0
Drone Launches             4
  Drone Recoveries         0
Derelicts Assembled        0
Traps Triggered            0
  Indirectly               0
Trap Hack Attempts         0
  Triggered                0
  Disarmed                 0
  Reprogrammed             0
  Reused                   0
Machines Hacked            24
  Terminals                19
  Fabricators              2
  Repair Stations          0
  Recycling Units          0
  Scanalyzers              0
  Garrison Access          3
Total Hacks                52
  Successful               17
  Failed                   35
  Catastrophic             13
  Database Lockouts        0
  Manual                   42
  Unauthorized             46
  Terminals                43
  Fabricators              5
  Repair Stations          0
  Recycling Units          0
  Scanalyzers              0
  Garrison Access          4
Terminal Hacks             6
  Record                   0
  Part Schematic           0
  Robot Schematic          0
  Robot Analysis           0
  Prototype ID Bank        2
  Open Door                1
  Level Access Points      1
  Branch Access Points     0
  Emergency Access Points  0
  Machine Index            0
  Terminal Index           2
  Fabricator Index         0
  Repair Station Index     0
  Recycling Unit Index     0
  Scanalyzer Index         0
  Garrison Index           0
  Alert Level              0
  Unreport Threat          0
  Locate Traps             0
  Disarm Traps             0
  Reprogram Traps          0
  Dispatch Records         0
  Maintenance Status       0
  Security Status          0
  Surveillance Status      0
  Patrol Status            0
  Transport Status         0
  Investigation Status     0
  Extermination Status     0
  Reinforcement Status     0
  Assault Status           0
  Recall Investigation     0
  Recall Extermination     0
  Recall Reinforcements    0
  Recall Assault           0
  Hauler Manifests         0
  Registered Components    0
  Registered Prototypes    0
  Zone Layout              0
  Sector Layout            0
  Machine Controls         0
Hacking Detections         18
  Full Trace Events        6
  Feedback Events          1
  Feedback Corruption      1
  Feedback Part Disabled   0
  Feedback Blocked         0
Garrisons Disabled         0
Garrisons Compromised      0
Robot Schematics Acquired  0
  Robots Built             0
  Total Robot Build Rating 0
  Robot Fabrication Matter 0
  Robot Fabrication Time   0
Part Schematics Acquired   0
  Parts Built              0
  Total Part Build Rating  0
  Part Fabrication Matter  0
  Part Fabrication Time    0
Parts Repaired             0
  Part Repair Time         0
Parts Recycled             0
  Recycled Matter          0
  Retrieved Matter         0
Parts Scanalyzed           0
  Part Schematics Acquired 0
  Parts Damaged            0
Robot Analysis Total       0
Robots Rewired             0
Robots Hacked              0
  Non-combat               0
  Combat                   0
  Parse                    0
  Link                     0
  Rebooted                 0
  Overloaded               0
  Assimilated              0
  Manual                   0
  Secondary                0
Robot Hack Failures        0
Allies Hacked              0
Hacks Repelled             0
Total Allies               4
  Largest Group            4
  Highest-Rated Group      20
  Highest-Rated Ally       5
Total Orders               2
  STAY                     0
  GOTO                     0
  ROAM                     0
  FOLLOW                   0
  GUARD                    0
  AID                      0
  BUILD                    0
  TUNNEL                   0
  DROP                     0
  PICKUP                   0
  COLLECT                  0
  EXPLORE                  2
  RETURN                   0
Terraforming Orders        0
  Walls Built              0
  Walls Tunneled           0
Ally Attacks               0
  Total Damage             0
  Kills                    0
Allies Corrupted           0
Allies Melted              0
Peak Influence             454
  Average Influence        157
  Final Influence          17
Maximum Alert Level        2
  Low Security (%)         65
  Level 1                  31
  Level 2                  2
  Level 3                  0
  Level 4                  0
  Level 5                  0
Squads Dispatched          27
  Investigation            11
  Extermination            3
  Reinforcement            10
  Assault                  0
  Garrison                 3
Exploration Rate (%)       15
  Regions Visited          11
Garrisons Visited          0
  Relays Disabled          0
  Generators Disabled      0
Network Hubs Disabled      0
Turns Passed               6065
  Depth 11                 164
  Depth 10                 419
  Depth 9                  149
  Depth 8                  1207
  Depth 7                  855
  Depth 6                  674
  Depth 5                  693
  Depth 4                  896
  Depth 3                  312
  Depth 2                  226
  Depth 1                  470
  Scrapyard                164
  Materials                1775
  Factory                  3118
  Research                 538
  Access                   470

 Prototype IDs
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Heavy Anti-Matter Reactor
Improved Flight Unit
Biomechanical Wings
Improved Q-Thruster
Experimental Q-Thruster
Improved Medium Laser
Heavy Particle Gun
Cooled Pulse Rifle
Heavy Tesla Rifle
Advanced Beam Cannon
Advanced Energy Well
Experimental Reclamation Unit

 Alien Tech Recovered
----------------------
None

 Game
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Seed: Speedy Style
^Manual?: 1
Play Time: 110 min
Sessions: 1
Mod: N/A
Game No.: 652
ASCII: 1
Keyboard: 1
Movement: Numpad
Fullscreen: 1
Font: 16/Terminus
Map View: 90x57


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Oh no!

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Your cannons didn't work?

[Enno]

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i had no cannons with me or better anymore.
but after i calm down a lttle bit, i can say that i never  came so far.
and now i know that a weapon wich can destroy inventory is a must have for the endgame, even with an hacking-build -_-
and to the scrapyard-preview-picture, it is more useful to me than the second preview-picture what i dont need. thanks for that.

[zxc]

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i had no cannons with me or better anymore.
but after i calm down a lttle bit, i can say that i never  came so far.
and now i know that a weapon wich can destroy inventory is a must have for the endgame, even with an hacking-build -_-
and to the scrapyard-preview-picture, it is more useful to me than the second preview-picture what i dont need. thanks for that.

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Oh I was looking at your peak state. Yeah, it's a learning experience trying to escape that first time. On my first time I was fortunate to be in a good state and not rushed, but your experience in Access is more the norm these days (it's harder now!).

[Kyzrati]

Sorry about that, Enno . I'm going to drop the armor on that thing a bit.
I was a bit surprised myself when I went back to look at that value recently, because my original intention with that that was for it to be mostly cosmetic, since the real challenges are everything before that, and they are tackleable through multiple means.

As is that thing's a little unfair to pure hackers. Sure once you know about it you can prepare to deal with it in advance, but that's not the right kind of experience we want there! Making it easier to penetrate would lose the possibility to repeat some of the cool stories I've heard surrounding it, but if it's frustrating that's no good.

[Sherlockkat]

I think it would make sense to automatically "open" the casing if the blast doors were opened by any means. Hacking/speed builds don't have to carry weapons then. On the other hand, pure combat builds will have to demonstrate their firepower till the end to exit if they plan to tear down the front walls.

[zxc]

I think it would make sense to automatically "open" the casing if the blast doors were opened by any means. Hacking/speed builds don't have to carry weapons then. On the other hand, pure combat builds will have to demonstrate their firepower till the end to exit if they plan to tear down the front walls.

Agree with this!

[Kyzrati]

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That's an interesting alternative approach. Technically most players will be carrying some kind of armament, and the idea is that even if unarmed, it's nice if the enemy will open it for you with stray shots, which will be easier once it has lower armor.

I'd probably do your idea if that could be modeled more directly within the current system, but it would require a bunch of hardcoding :/. We'll see how things turn out when I drop its armor by 15% to within the capabilities of almost every gun used by the enemy at that point, and almost anything you'd be carrying (except lower-tier EM weapons).

...

And of course while I'm typing my reply zxc chimes in

Okay okay, I'll look into it more closely.

[Kyzrati]

Okay I thought of a way to do that

[zxc]

I do like how things worked out in my run that time. With this suggested change that would be ruled out, which is a cool (if random) way to escape.

So I am not completely sure

[Kyzrati]

Yeah, that was one of the stories I was referring to. It's gone down like that more than once, which is awesome. But if it has the potential to piss people off, it's best removed, especially since there is technically no requirement to carry a weapon.

I did think of what could be a dramatic way to open the shell (if it works), so maybe that would make up for it. Lot of extra work to go back to something that was "done," though.

[Enno]

I think it would make sense to automatically "open" the casing if the blast doors were opened by any means....

ja ja ja ...thats what i thought  will happen 
i also totally agree with that...because thats fair!

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shell automatically open if main door opend by terminal,
if not than not and you have to destroy the shell first with your weapons

plus i totally own this seed muhahaha

[Kyzrati]

I implemented it last night; will be in the next release as discussed