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Title: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: zxc on May 14, 2017, 09:02:56 AM

This week's seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver

The Weekly Seed is open to anyone, and we encourage you to share your experiences, stories, and tactics over the course of your run.

The rules are as follows:

The Weekly Seed begins from the date this thread is posted and lasts about seven days.
Make sure you are running the correct version of Cogmind (see thread subject).
Enter the seed and abort your current game to initiate the seed (more details are below).
Verify you are not running the tutorial and that the screenshots below match your game.
Play through the game once. This is a friendly event and we are all honest people.
When finished, post your scoresheet here (it should be the newest file in /scores) and any other screenshots/stories/strategies you wish to share with the community.
If you want to share details about the seed or your approach, make sure you use spoiler tags.
Due to the spoilerific nature of this thread, be sure to avoid reading details about the seed if you haven't completed your run.
As Cogmind now has multiple difficulty modes and challenges which will affect the world generation, by default it is assumed everyone is playing on regular difficulty with no challenges enabled. You are free to use whichever settings you wish, but if you intend on discussing it, be sure to specify what difficulty/challenges you're using!

Good luck and have fun!

HOW TO ENTER A SEED

Press F1 to go to the MENU, select OPTIONS, select Seed, and enter this week's seed:

(https://i.imgur.com/vx1UQW3.png)

Select GAME, select ABORT:

(https://i.imgur.com/cCLoJgu.png)

If you have followed the steps [Manual seed applied: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver] should display in the log window.

Congratulations on entering the seed, now get in there!

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: nuzcraft on May 14, 2017, 08:31:48 PM

I had a fun run, though I only made it to -7/Factory. All the deets are below. Like a renegade a chose to enter -10/Mines and -9/Mines. In -10/Mines I escaped with just 1 core left. JUST ONE! Poor resource management and some iffy decisions are what finally did me in. I tend to shoot first and see if I have enough matter to attach new legs later (great way to get stranded by the way). Spread shots kept killing engineers, which would summon more reinforcements. Always looking for suggestions! I recorded this run as well, I'll post a link when I get it edited and uploaded to youtube.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: zxc on May 14, 2017, 11:15:15 PM

I did a straightforward flight win, no branches except Zh: http://www.gridsagegames.com/cogmind/scores/170509/zzxc-170514-053033-0-33035_w0.txt

I'll take a look at your video when you post it :)

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: nuzcraft on May 15, 2017, 03:42:58 PM

I noticed specifically, I fired way more volleys than you. Did you pick up flight units then hack and evade your way through most of the levels? Or what was your strategy?

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: zxc on May 15, 2017, 11:49:26 PM

I switched to flight pretty early and avoided combat from then on.

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 16, 2017, 12:17:41 AM

My seed run is going... pretty sorta maybe well. Not as good as I planned, having not played much for a while and following some strategic mistakes, and I'm just starting to rebuild at the beginning of Research.

Long run so far, nearly four hours and only at -3. I streamed it here (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/144465707), and I'll finish it up probably tomorrow and share the final results here as well.

It has been crazy. Almost died in Materials, and literally came within a few turns of dying in a proxy caves returning from -4. I was really powerful in the mid-game though, with help from Zion. We took out Cetus faster than I've ever done that before--absolutely crushed them in no time (I didn't really have to do anything...).

Some highlights so far:

Got a pretty good army going for a while--notice the dual Tactical Coordination Suites!
(https://i.imgur.com/TyQnI9T.png)

All geared up and we're about to leave Cetus.
(https://i.imgur.com/sxN0yLD.png)

This is where I lost all of my army in the space of like ten turns. TRIPLE Demolishers are punishing...
(https://i.imgur.com/MaE7zOq.png)

The proxy caves from hell. Squad after squad... (this shot taken shortly after yet another battle in which there's not much of the area left!)
(https://i.imgur.com/v0r5Eam.png)

The final squad from which I barely managed to escape and find the exit around the corner--close one!
(https://i.imgur.com/mwv6qSr.png)

I've just started Research but already have four very powerful allies, so should be able to rebuild soon...

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Ved on May 16, 2017, 04:56:47 AM

That seed run is going pretty well for now. It may be even my best run ever - I'm -5 and didn't encounter any serious problems. I watched zxc's speedrun video earlier and I decided to analyze his tactics and learn something useful - and so that happened, I suppose.

-5 was pretty tough, but - as it turned out later - it was still not bad in comparison to -4, that... I didn't know what I was doing, I hoped that I'll manage to outrun / outmaneuver enemies, because I wasn't able to destroy anything. I found stairs up, so I'm in research - first time!

I was sure that -3 will be just too hard for unprepared and almost naked Cogmind, but I found stairs really fast. Stairs warden was involved in some shooting with Plagues - it helped me to sneak behind him.

I'm not sure where I am now, but does it matter? I'm gonna die quickly, after all.
It's how do I look since -4

(https://i.imgur.com/pQCgdBm.png)

Yup, I was right. I died quickly in, as log stated, armory.

Log:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 16, 2017, 05:59:07 AM

Wow you were moving pretty quickly there, to make it to the Armory with only 4k points. I'm in -3 also and hope to avoid the Armory exit at least for a bit considering the shape I'm in!

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Ved on May 16, 2017, 06:09:58 AM

I was lucky with stairs and hacks. Maybe I was moving too quick, probably a bit more exploration on -5 could put me in better position for the next floors. But still, I'm satisfied :)

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 16, 2017, 06:46:22 AM

Heh, always nice to get further! Certainly once you're more familiar with the late-game you'll want to spend some of your mid-game preparing for a future strategy, but it's also fun to just go with the flow and deal with things as they come.

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: nuzcraft on May 16, 2017, 03:17:50 PM

I've uploaded my run as promised! You can take a look here if you'd like https://youtu.be/2DAVpBNu060 (https://youtu.be/2DAVpBNu060). I think my biggest takeaway, both from this run, and from catching part of Kyzrati's stream yesterday, is that sometimes you just need to drop everything, run away, and regroup. I think I get too attached to some of my parts and it kills me.

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 16, 2017, 05:55:06 PM

Certainly when the alternative is death, dropping and running at the right time is an important tactic :). I had to drop some good stuff yesterday, but I live to fight again!

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 16, 2017, 09:45:58 PM

Aw yeah, got my win in with this seed :D (streamed it, with part 2 here (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/144465898))

So I started out practically naked, and before long my friends had me up and running again...
(https://i.imgur.com/fjJLgq0.png)

And I had friends for most of Research, which I kept alive with a mantle and tac suite.
(https://i.imgur.com/AHn7rBO.png)

Access I mostly ran alone, but after accidentally taking a detour into Quarantine I had some pretty decent gear, and both brought and found enough drones to help scout out the place. They found the exit area eventually and I used an artifact to sneak in the back way.

Spoiler: End-game exit area (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Score: 32,116 (click to show/hide)

Cogmind - Beta 1.1 @@@ ROGUELIKE MODE Name: Kyzrati ---[ ESCAPED! ]--- Performance ------------- Evolutions (9) 4500 Robots Destroyed (322) 1610 Value Destroyed (14208) 14208 Prototype IDs (35) 700 Alien Tech Used (5) 1000 Bonus (10098) 10098 TOTAL SCORE: 32116 Cogmind --------- Core Integrity 1092/1600 Matter 97/300 Energy 87/100 System Corruption 12% Temperature Cool (4) Location To Epsilon Eridani Parts ------- Power (2) (None) Propulsion (5) High-density Centrium Heavy Treads Myomer Leg Centrium Leg Centrium Leg Utility (13) Experimental Cooling System Large Storage Unit Large Storage Unit Advanced Target Analyzer Advanced Target Analyzer Advanced Target Analyzer Weapon (5) Railgun Inventory (16) Gamma Rifle Gamma Rifle Linear Accelerator Micro-nuke Launcher Fusion Bomb Launcher Hellfire Missile Launcher Peak State ------------ Power Particle Reactor Compact Particle Reactor Propulsion Enhanced Flexi-carbon Leg Myomer Leg Myomer Leg Zionite Composite Leg II Zionite Composite Leg II Utility Experimental Cooling System Experimental Cooling System Experimental Cooling System Large Storage Unit Large Storage Unit Tactical Coordination Suite Advanced Target Analyzer Advanced Target Analyzer Advanced Core Analyzer Advanced Weapon Cycler Advanced Transmission Jammer Improved Energy Mantle Improved Hacking Suite Weapon Heavy Tesla Rifle Gamma Rifle Gamma Rifle Railgun Railgun Inventory Light Antimatter Reactor Medium Treads High-density Centrium Heavy Treads Terrabomb Railgun Railgun Railgun Railgun Micro-nuke Launcher Micro-nuke Launcher Fusion Bomb Launcher Hellfire Missile Launcher Sigix Broadsword [Rating: 189] Favorites ----------- Power Light Angular Momentum Engine Engine Light Angular Momentum Engine Power Core Fission Core Reactor Quantum Reactor Propulsion Myomer Leg Treads Centrium Heavy Treads Wheel Wheel Leg Myomer Leg Hover Unit Improved Hover Unit Flight Unit Q-thruster Utility Large Storage Unit Device Tactical Coordination Suite Storage Large Storage Unit Processor Advanced Target Analyzer Hackware Advanced Hacking Suite Protection Centrium Medium Armor Plating Artifact Stasis Generator Weapon Railgun Energy Gun Gamma Rifle Energy Cannon Heavy Phase Cannon Ballistic Gun Railgun Ballistic Cannon Advanced Assault Cannon Launcher Improved Grenade Launcher Impact Weapon Heavy Hammer Slashing Weapon Sigix Broadsword Stats ------- Bonus Breakdown 10098 High Alert Combat Kills 443 Follower Combat Kills 2554 Met Imprinter 300 Was Imprinted 300 Met Zhirov 300 Built Enhanced Grunts 300 Met R17 at Cetus 500 Win 3000 Win Speed 2401 Classes Destroyed 23 Worker 21 Builder 17 Tunneler 3 Hauler 7 Recycler 31 Minesweeper 1 Mechanic 2 Operator 5 Drone 1 Watcher 6 Swarmer 28 Saboteur 2 Grunt 105 Brawler 7 Duelist 5 Researcher 1 Sentry 22 Demolisher 4 Specialist 3 Hunter 14 Programmer 34 Behemoth 1 Z-Heavy 2 Major NPCs Destroyed 0 Best Kill Streak 14 Combat Bots Only 12 Best States 0 Heat Dissipation 186 Coolant Potential 65 Energy Capacity 600 Matter Capacity 300 Sight Range 16 Robot Scan Range 20 Terrain Scan Range 24 Terrain Scan Density 10 Jamming Range 16 Power Amplification 30 Armor Coverage (%) 33 Resistance: KI 25 Resistance: TH 10 Resistance: EM 15 Core Shielding 20 Weapon Shielding 100 Point Defense Rating 160 Weapon Cycling 25 Phase Shifting 10 Evasion (%) 62 Targeting Accuracy 8 Melee Accuracy 12 Target Analysis 24 Core Analysis 10 Recoil Reduction 4 Particle Charging 25 Offensive Hacking 14 Matter Collected 9493 Salvage Created 15746 Parts Attached 458 Power 34 Propulsion 91 Utility 132 Weapon 201 Parts Lost 128 Power 16 Propulsion 26 Utility 29 Weapon 57 Average Slot Usage (%) 93 Naked Turns 22 Spaces Moved 11356 Fastest Speed (%) 270 Average Speed (%) 74 Slowest Speed (%) 41 Overloaded Moves 0 Propulsion Burnouts 0 Targets Rammed 19 Targets Kicked 12 Targets Crushed 0 Cave-ins Triggered 2 Teleports 1 Heaviest Build 151 Greatest Support 160 Greatest Overweight (x) 15 Average Overweight (x) 0 Largest Inventory 22 Average Capacity 14 Most Carried 22 Average Carried 14 Final Capacity 16 Final Carried 6 Damage Taken 115346 Core 3067 Absorbed by Shields 768 Average Core Remaining (%) 67 Depth 11 Exit 100 Depth 10 Exit 40 Depth 9 Exit 90 Depth 8 Exit 35 Depth 7 Exit 67 Depth 6 Exit 76 Depth 5 Exit 82 Depth 4 Exit 14 Depth 3 Exit 77 Depth 2 Exit 88 Depth 1 Exit 68 Volleys Fired 709 Largest 5 Hottest 836 Shots Fired 1991 Gun 1787 Cannon 126 Launcher 78 Special 0 Kinetic 939 Thermal 560 Explosive 78 Electromagnetic 414 Secondary Targets 8 Shots Hit Robots 1318 Core Hits 675 Critical Hits 72 Critical Kills 21 Critical Parts Destroyed 33 Overload Shots 12 Energy Bleed 0 Heat Surge 0 Short Circuit 0 Meltdown 0 Melee Attacks 13 Impact 8 Slashing 5 Piercing 0 Sneak Attacks 0 Follow-up Attacks 0 Damage Inflicted 43433 Projectiles 26154 Explosions 16864 Melee 164 Ramming 251 Kinetic 10838 Thermal 10592 Explosive 15327 Electromagnetic 6261 Impact 27 Slashing 137 Piercing 0 Overflow Damage 402 Projectiles 200 Explosions 81 Melee 121 Self-Inflicted Damage 685 Shots 15 Rammed 7 Highest Temperature 624 Average Temperature 102 Received Heat Transfer 3958 Shutdowns 4 Energy Bleed 1 Interference 5 Matter Decay 0 Short Circuit 2 Damage (minor) 2 Damage (major) 0 Damage (core) 0 Highest Corruption 16 Average Corruption 3 Corruption Purged 13 Message Errors 36 Matter Fused 53 Heat Flow Error 32 Energy Discharge 16 Parts Rejected 2 Data loss (map) 0 Data loss (database) 21 Misfires 5 Misdirections 19 Targeting Errors 51 Weapon Failures 9 Depth 5 End 2 Depth 4 End 16 Depth 3 End 7 Depth 1 End 12 Impact Corruptions 0 Haulers Intercepted 7 Robots Corrupted 15 Parts Fried 46 Impact Corruptions 3 Robots Melted 1 Parts Melted 43 Heat Transferred 15856 Parts Sabotaged 4 Parts Stolen 0 Parts Stripped 0 Parts Self-Destructed 59 Prevented 24 Power Chain Reactions 10 Communications Jammed 4 Times Spotted 462 Peak Tracking Total 11 Tactical Retreats 26 Parts Field Recycled 0 Retrieved Matter 0 Parts Merge Repaired 0 Drone Launches 19 Drone Recoveries 0 Traps Triggered 8 Indirectly 0 Trap Hack Attempts 0 Triggered 0 Disarmed 0 Reprogrammed 0 Reused 5 Traps Extracted 0 Installed 6 Triggered 5 Machines Disabled 39 Machines Sabotaged 0 Data Cores Recovered 2 Used 2 Machines Hacked 34 Terminals 18 Fabricators 0 Repair Stations 0 Recycling Units 4 Scanalyzers 0 Garrison Access 5 Total Hacks 86 Successful 34 Failed 45 Catastrophic 14 Database Lockouts 0 Manual 49 Unauthorized 70 Terminals 38 Fabricators 0 Repair Stations 0 Recycling Units 10 Scanalyzers 0 Garrison Access 10 Terminal Hacks 50 Record 8 Part Schematic 4 Robot Analysis 5 Prototype ID Bank 4 Open Door 1 Alert Level 1 Unreport Threat 3 Locate Traps 2 Zone Layout 1 Hacking Detections 35 Full Trace Events 5 Feedback Events 0 Feedback Corruption 0 Feedback Hackware Fried 0 Feedback Blocked 0 Trojans Installed 1 Terminals 1 Fabricators 0 Repair Stations 0 Recycling Units 0 Scanalyzers 0 Garrison Access 0 Fabricators Overloaded 0 Fabriactor Schematic DLs 0 Garrisons Disabled 5 Garrisons Compromised 0 Fab Network Shutdowns 0 Robot Schematics Acquired 0 Robots Built 0 Total Robot Build Rating 0 Robot Fabrication Matter 0 Robot Fabrication Time 0 Part Schematics Acquired 4 Parts Built 0 Total Part Build Rating 0 Part Fabrication Matter 0 Part Fabrication Time 0 Parts Repaired 0 Part Repair Time 0 Parts Recycled 0 Recycled Matter 0 Retrieved Matter 0 Retrieved Components 10 Parts Scanalyzed 0 Part Schematics Acquired 0 Parts Damaged 0 Robot Analysis Total 5 Robots Rewired 25 Robots Hacked 0 Non-combat 0 Combat 0 Robot Hack Failures 0 Allies Hacked 2 Hacks Repelled 0 Total Allies 89 Largest Group 13 Highest-Rated Group 796 Highest-Rated Ally 156 Total Orders 45 STAY 3 GOTO 14 FOLLOW 8 EXPLORE 20 Terraforming Orders 0 Walls Tunneled 0 Zionite Dispatches 12 Heavy 3 Light 4 Fire 1 Hacker 4 Ally Attacks 775 Total Damage 25424 Kills 162 Allies Corrupted 9 Allies Melted 2 Peak Influence 1143 Average Influence 347 Final Influence 40 Maximum Alert Level 4 Low Security (%) 32 Level 1 26 Level 2 31 Level 3 8 Level 4 0 Level 5 0 Triggered High Security 0 Turns 0 Squads Dispatched 61 Investigation 8 Extermination 17 Reinforcement 21 Assault 7 Garrison 8 Intercept 0 Derelict Logs Recovered 9 Scrap Searched 11 Exploration Rate (%) 34 Regions Visited 25 Pre-discovered Areas 6 Garrisons Visited 0 Relays Disabled 0 Generators Disabled 0 Network Hubs Disabled 0 Actions Taken 14969 Turns Passed 20822 Depth 11 54 Depth 10 1118 Depth 9 375 Depth 8 702 Depth 7 4811 Depth 6 3994 Depth 5 1016 Depth 4 1988 Depth 3 4069 Depth 2 903 Depth 1 1792 Scrapyard 54 Materials 1438 Factory 3902 Research 3466 Access 1792 Mines 757 Lower Caves 1553 Upper Caves 1654 Proximity Caves 1928 Zion 1253 Zhirov 337 Extension 1660 Cetus 462 Quarantine 566 Prototype IDs --------------- Enhanced Fission Core Fusion Reactor Heavy Antimatter Reactor Zionite Heavy DM Reactor Compact Particle Reactor Centrium Heavy Treads High-density Centrium Heavy Treads Zionite Composite Leg I Enhanced Flexi-carbon Leg Zionite Composite Leg II Advanced Power Amplifier Experimental Heat Sink Experimental Cooling System Experimental Optical Array Spectral Analyzer Experimental Melee Analysis Suite Experimental Target Analyzer Zionite Weapon Casing Zionite Light Carapace Zionite Heavy Carapace Centrium Medium Armor Plating Experimental Thermal Shield Advanced Thermal Defense Suite Experimental Reclamation Unit Assault Drone Bay Phasing AFG Heavy Tesla Rifle Gamma Rifle Zionite Laser-S Cooled Plasma Rifle Advanced Variable Charge Gun Improved KE Penetrator Hellfire Missile Launcher Centrium Greatsword Fabricated ------------ Nothing Alien Tech Used ----------------- Integrated Dissipator Transdimensional Reconstructor Terrabomb Stasis Generator Sigix Broadsword Route ------- -11/Scrapyard -10/Materials -10/Mines -9/Materials -8/Materials -7/Factory -7/Lower Caves -7/Lower Caves -7/Zion -6/Proximity Caves -6/Factory (discovered 2 exits: *Low / *Ext) -6/Extension (discovered 2 exits: *Fac / *Cet) -6/Cetus (discovered 2 exits: *Fac / [*Arc]) -5/Factory -5/Upper Caves -5/Upper Caves -4/Factory -4/Upper Caves -4/Upper Caves -4/Zhirov -3/Proximity Caves -3/Research (discovered 2 exits: *Arm / *Qua) -3/Quarantine -2/Research -1/Access To Epsilon Eridani Challenges ------------ None Game ------ Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver Manual?: 1 Play Time: 384 min Cumulative: 385 min Sessions: 3 Easy Mode: 0 Game No.: 2 Easier: 0 Easiest: 0 Win Type: 0 Total: 1 Types: 1/0/0/0/0/0/0 Lore%: 4 Gallery%: 18 Options --------- ASCII: 0 Keyboard: 1 Movement: Numpad Fullscreen: 2 Font: 20/SmallcapsGlow Map View: 66x50 FOV Handling: Fade In

Now that I've won I'll be taking even more risks in future runs, and trying out some of the new challenge modes!

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: DDarkray on May 18, 2017, 10:09:28 AM

Quote from: Kyzrati on May 16, 2017, 12:17:41 AM

This is where I lost all of my army in the space of like ten turns. TRIPLE Demolishers are punishing...

We should have an item that gives explosive resistance to all allies in range. And maybe an item for EM resistance as well (especially for those EM traps).

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #82 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: ArmorNeutrinoCleaver]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 18, 2017, 07:03:01 PM

That's a nice idea! I did add an AOE thermal defense suite a couple releases back. Adding some for other types, especially explosives, would be extremely beneficial for ally builds...

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