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Title: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.2] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: zxc on May 21, 2017, 12:46:46 PM

This week's seed: LaserGravityApparatus

The Weekly Seed is open to anyone, and we encourage you to share your experiences, stories, and tactics over the course of your run.

The rules are as follows:

The Weekly Seed begins from the date this thread is posted and lasts about seven days.
Make sure you are running the correct version of Cogmind (see thread subject).
Enter the seed and abort your current game to initiate the seed (more details are below).
Verify you are not running the tutorial and that the screenshots below match your game.
Play through the game once. This is a friendly event and we are all honest people.
When finished, post your scoresheet here (it should be the newest file in /scores) and any other screenshots/stories/strategies you wish to share with the community.
If you want to share details about the seed or your approach, make sure you use spoiler tags.
Due to the spoilerific nature of this thread, be sure to avoid reading details about the seed if you haven't completed your run.
As Cogmind now has multiple difficulty modes and challenges which will affect the world generation, by default it is assumed everyone is playing on regular difficulty with no challenges enabled. You are free to use whichever settings you wish, but if you intend on discussing it, be sure to specify what difficulty/challenges you're using!

Good luck and have fun!

HOW TO ENTER A SEED

Press F1 to go to the MENU, select OPTIONS, select Seed, and enter this week's seed:

(https://i.imgur.com/vx1UQW3.png)

Select GAME, select ABORT:

(https://i.imgur.com/cCLoJgu.png)

If you have followed the steps [Manual seed applied: LaserGravityApparatus] should display in the log window.

Congratulations on entering the seed, now get in there!

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: DDarkray on May 21, 2017, 08:54:50 PM

Spoiler regarding Deep Cave:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A huge warning sign appears in front of you.

Spoiler: Enter anyway (click to show/hide)

Are you sure?

Spoiler: Yes (click to show/hide)

My run ended so unexpectedly! I was doing okay with my flight build. After visiting Zion, I had Adv. Sensor Array, Adv. Signal Interpreter, Adv. visual processing unit, cloaking device, transmission jammer, rockets, armor, all the good stuff for a stealth run. But after encountering a certain Zionite who suddenly gave me some random codes, I immediately know what to do with them.

Enter the Deep Cave

Well, I thought I was well prepared for it. I got so much stealth, how can anyone catch me? Turns out, I should've been a combat bot. I've been chased down left and right until I hit a dead end. That's when I have to bring out my double spears to fight back. I almost killed him, but my little core died a little too quickly. Totally worth visiting again!

Spoiler: Scoresheet (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.1] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 22, 2017, 08:29:26 AM

That's... a tough place to go like that, yeah!

I still haven't done it myself! Alpha 14 was a better opportunity, but at least I add the new way to get in, which you apparently were able to take advantage of :P

Since this seed was just created, I imagine we can use it for 1.2 as well, since that's officially out now. (1.2 had to break save compatibility to add some new items, which is the same as breaking seed compatibility.)

I think I'll be streaming this one tomorrow... (with a challenge)

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.2] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 22, 2017, 11:55:23 PM

So I did this one with Pure Core, and wow was that interesting... Like Super Gauntlet (http://www.gridsagegames.com/forums/index.php?topic=798.0), it took some different strategies and tactics. It affected my slot decisions the whole way through, but especially at the beginning where I waited a while to upgrade utilities in order to favor weapons and propulsion, since a lack of spares there could mean death! (Some utility slots are used for storage anyway, and since that wasn't a possibility those slots weren't too missed early on.)

In the end I had a ton of propulsion, more than I've ever run with before, and also added a second power slot pretty early because, again, lack of inventory spares could make a loss of power pretty significant!

Overall the run went surprisingly well, although I did play slower and take longer to think things through to make sure that was the case. There was also some luck involved--exits were found pretty easily almost all the way, but there were still lots of close calls...

I streamed (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/146455500) the entire run.

I was trying to avoid branches in general (dangerous attrition!), but did dive into several caves since I wasn't sure how long it'd be before I could find a regular exit. (Throughout the mid-game drones helped me do a good bit of exploring, too.) And what probably did me in was the fact that I got scanned in Testing, and only because I took on an Alpha 7 with an unseen Researcher around the corner :/

The exit was right around the corner, too! If only I'd known xD (my drone didn't quite make it that far...)
(https://i.imgur.com/EXwAj7v.png) (https://i.imgur.com/EXwAj7v.png)
Originally it was just one bot and a researcher, then of course the reinforcements arrived from the exit around the corner!

Actually, though, I could also thank the Researcher, because that EMDS dropped by the subsequent intercept dispatch practically owned everything else for a while. In the end I made it to Access, taking out two intercept dispatches on the way.

I explored about a third of the floor, and started it by taking out a Cycler (!), so there was a good chance that with some luck I could've won, but it wasn't meant to be. Honestly though, I didn't expect to even make it half way to the surface, so reaching Access was pretty surprising!

Spoiler: Score: 22,039 (click to show/hide)

Cogmind - Beta 1.2 @@@ ROGUELIKE MODE Name: Kyzrati ---[ CORE DESTROYED ]--- Performance ------------- Evolutions (9) 4500 Robots Destroyed (191) 955 Value Destroyed (9092) 9092 Prototype IDs (16) 320 Alien Tech Used (0) 0 Bonus (7172) 7172 TOTAL SCORE: 22039 Cogmind --------- Core Integrity 0/1600 Matter 300/300 Energy 100/100 System Corruption 25% Temperature Cool (9) Location -1/Access Parts ------- Power (2) (None) Propulsion (8) (None) Utility (10) Advanced Target Analyzer Weapon (5) (None) Inventory (0) (Empty) Peak State ------------ Power Micro Fission Core Light Quantum Reactor Propulsion Compact Heavy Treads Myomer Leg Myomer Leg Biometal Leg Centrium Leg Centrium Leg Centrium Leg Centrium Leg Utility Advanced Heat Sink Advanced Heat Sink Advanced Heat Sink Experimental Cooling System Experimental Coolant Injector Advanced Sensor Array Advanced Sensor Array Advanced Targeting Computer Advanced Target Analyzer Advanced Reaction Control System Weapon Gamma Rifle Gamma Rifle Quantum Rifle Enhanced Quantum Rifle Railgun Inventory (Empty) [Rating: 179] Favorites ----------- Power Light Antimatter Reactor Engine Improved Ion Engine Power Core Light Fission Core Reactor Light Antimatter Reactor Propulsion Myomer Leg Treads Medium Treads Leg Myomer Leg Hover Unit Improved Gravmag System Flight Unit Field Propulsion Array Utility Advanced Targeting Computer Device Advanced Heat Sink Processor Advanced Targeting Computer Protection Improved Heavy Armor Plating Weapon KE Penetrator Energy Gun High-powered Shock Rifle Energy Cannon HERF Cannon Ballistic Gun KE Penetrator Ballistic Cannon Hardcell Cannon Launcher Mini Smartbomb Launcher Stats ------- Bonus Breakdown 7172 Pure Core 7172 Classes Destroyed 14 Worker 9 Builder 9 Hauler 6 Recycler 22 Operator 2 Watcher 5 Swarmer 30 Grunt 44 Brawler 1 Duelist 5 Researcher 1 Sentry 16 Hunter 21 Programmer 20 Major NPCs Destroyed 0 Best Kill Streak 11 Combat Bots Only 7 Best States 0 Heat Dissipation 147 Coolant Potential 120 Energy Capacity 580 Matter Capacity 300 Sight Range 16 Robot Scan Range 16 Terrain Scan Range 14 Terrain Scan Density 10 ECM Strength 3 EM Shielding 3 Armor Coverage (%) 46 Core Shielding 20 Power Shielding 66 Weapon Cycling 20 Melee Speed Boost 20 Phase Shifting 20 Evasion (%) 62 Targeting Accuracy 14 Melee Accuracy 6 Target Analysis 8 Recoil Reduction 8 Stasis Canceling 6 Matter Collected 6165 Salvage Created 9801 Parts Attached 240 Power 31 Propulsion 66 Utility 67 Weapon 76 Parts Lost 98 Power 9 Propulsion 29 Utility 27 Weapon 33 Average Slot Usage (%) 84 Naked Turns 1 Spaces Moved 5500 Fastest Speed (%) 270 Average Speed (%) 94 Slowest Speed (%) 50 Overloaded Moves 0 Propulsion Burnouts 0 Targets Rammed 11 Targets Kicked 5 Targets Crushed 0 Cave-ins Triggered 0 Heaviest Build 85 Greatest Support 288 Greatest Overweight (x) 21 Average Overweight (x) 0 Largest Inventory 0 Average Capacity 0 Most Carried 0 Average Carried 0 Final Capacity 0 Final Carried 0 Damage Taken 51479 Core 3354 Absorbed by Shields 0 Average Core Remaining (%) 83 Depth 11 Exit 100 Depth 10 Exit 92 Depth 9 Exit 78 Depth 8 Exit 97 Depth 7 Exit 82 Depth 6 Exit 89 Depth 5 Exit 100 Depth 4 Exit 91 Depth 3 Exit 69 Depth 2 Exit 37 Volleys Fired 474 Largest 5 Hottest 378 Shots Fired 1176 Gun 804 Cannon 304 Launcher 68 Special 0 Kinetic 701 Thermal 224 Explosive 56 Electromagnetic 195 Secondary Targets 2 Shots Hit Robots 744 Core Hits 434 Critical Hits 40 Critical Kills 12 Critical Parts Destroyed 19 Overload Shots 1 Energy Bleed 0 Heat Surge 0 Short Circuit 0 Meltdown 0 Melee Attacks 0 Impact 0 Slashing 0 Piercing 0 Sneak Attacks 0 Follow-up Attacks 0 Damage Inflicted 25809 Projectiles 17591 Explosions 8158 Melee 0 Ramming 60 Kinetic 9664 Thermal 5324 Explosive 6469 Electromagnetic 4292 Impact 0 Slashing 0 Piercing 0 Overflow Damage 395 Projectiles 246 Explosions 106 Melee 43 Self-Inflicted Damage 440 Shots 9 Rammed 6 Highest Temperature 444 Average Temperature 87 Received Heat Transfer 1935 Shutdowns 2 Interference 5 Matter Decay 2 Highest Corruption 25 Average Corruption 8 Corruption Purged 0 Message Errors 20 Matter Fused 19 Heat Flow Error 16 Energy Discharge 10 Parts Rejected 4 Data loss (database) 23 Misfires 8 Misdirections 30 Targeting Errors 48 Weapon Failures 13 Depth 4 End 3 Depth 3 End 9 Depth 2 End 19 Impact Corruptions 0 Haulers Intercepted 6 Robots Corrupted 11 Parts Fried 27 Impact Corruptions 0 Robots Melted 0 Parts Melted 7 Heat Transferred 6342 Parts Sabotaged 0 Parts Stolen 0 Parts Stripped 0 Parts Self-Destructed 2 Prevented 3 Power Chain Reactions 6 Communications Jammed 0 Times Spotted 274 Peak Tracking Total 17 Tactical Retreats 18 Parts Field Recycled 0 Retrieved Matter 0 Parts Merge Repaired 0 Drone Launches 13 Drone Recoveries 4 Traps Triggered 3 Indirectly 0 Trap Hack Attempts 0 Triggered 0 Disarmed 0 Reprogrammed 0 Reused 2 Traps Extracted 0 Installed 0 Triggered 2 Machines Disabled 23 Machines Sabotaged 0 Data Cores Recovered 0 Used 0 Machines Hacked 19 Terminals 13 Fabricators 0 Repair Stations 0 Recycling Units 3 Scanalyzers 0 Garrison Access 3 Total Hacks 38 Successful 17 Failed 21 Catastrophic 7 Database Lockouts 0 Manual 20 Unauthorized 28 Terminals 31 Fabricators 0 Repair Stations 0 Recycling Units 3 Scanalyzers 0 Garrison Access 4 Terminal Hacks 6 Unreport Threat 1 Locate Traps 3 Zone Layout 2 Hacking Detections 16 Full Trace Events 0 Feedback Events 0 Feedback Corruption 0 Feedback Hackware Fried 0 Feedback Blocked 0 Trojans Installed 8 Terminals 8 Fabricators 0 Repair Stations 0 Recycling Units 0 Scanalyzers 0 Garrison Access 0 Fabricators Overloaded 0 Fabricator Schematic DLs 0 Garrisons Disabled 2 Garrisons Compromised 0 Fab Network Shutdowns 0 Robot Schematics Acquired 0 Robots Built 0 Total Robot Build Rating 0 Robot Fabrication Matter 0 Robot Fabrication Time 0 Part Schematics Acquired 0 Parts Built 0 Total Part Build Rating 0 Part Fabrication Matter 0 Part Fabrication Time 0 Parts Repaired 0 Part Repair Time 0 Parts Recycled 0 Recycled Matter 0 Retrieved Matter 0 Retrieved Components 1 Parts Scanalyzed 0 Part Schematics Acquired 0 Parts Damaged 0 Robot Analysis Total 0 Robots Rewired 0 Robots Hacked 0 Non-combat 0 Combat 0 Robot Hack Failures 0 Allies Hacked 0 Hacks Repelled 0 Total Allies 13 Largest Group 4 Highest-Rated Group 192 Highest-Rated Ally 48 Total Orders 34 STAY 1 GOTO 13 FOLLOW 4 EXPLORE 14 RETURN 2 Terraforming Orders 0 Walls Tunneled 0 Ally Attacks 0 Total Damage 0 Kills 0 Allies Corrupted 2 Allies Melted 0 Peak Influence 439 Average Influence 108 Final Influence 0 Maximum Alert Level 2 Low Security (%) 80 Level 1 17 Level 2 1 Level 3 0 Level 4 0 Level 5 0 Triggered High Security 0 Turns 0 Squads Dispatched 30 Investigation 2 Extermination 7 Reinforcement 16 Assault 0 Garrison 1 Intercept 4 Derelict Logs Recovered 9 Scrap Searched 10 Exploration Rate (%) 21 Regions Visited 19 Pre-discovered Areas 3 Garrisons Visited 0 Relays Disabled 0 Generators Disabled 0 Network Hubs Disabled 0 Actions Taken 6917 Turns Passed 8774 Depth 11 96 Depth 10 282 Depth 9 837 Depth 8 430 Depth 7 1071 Depth 6 779 Depth 5 358 Depth 4 1688 Depth 3 685 Depth 2 1700 Depth 1 848 Scrapyard 96 Materials 1018 Factory 2561 Research 2044 Access 848 Mines 531 Lower Caves 907 Upper Caves 428 Testing 341 Prototype IDs --------------- Compact Particle Reactor Enhanced Flexi-carbon Leg Enhanced Armored Leg Experimental Cooling System Experimental Coolant Injector Centrium Medium Armor Plating Gamma Rifle Improved Spread Laser Cooled Plasma Rifle EMDS Advanced Beam Cannon Enhanced Autogun Advanced EMP Blaster Mini Smartbomb Launcher Guided Micro-nuke Launcher Fabricated ------------ Nothing Alien Tech Used ----------------- None Route ------- -11/Scrapyard -10/Materials -9/Materials -9/Mines -8/Materials -7/Factory -7/Lower Caves -7/Lower Caves -6/Factory -6/Lower Caves -6/Lower Caves -5/Factory (discovered 3 exits: *Fac x2 / Ext) -4/Factory (discovered 2 exits: *Upp x2) -4/Upper Caves -4/Upper Caves -3/Research -3/Testing -2/Research -1/Access Challenges ------------ Pure Core Game ------ Seed: LaserGravityApparatus Manual?: 1 Play Time: 172 min Cumulative: 172 min Sessions: 1 Easy Mode: 0 Game No.: 2 Easier: 0 Easiest: 0 Win Type: - Total: 0 Types: 0/0/0/0/0/0/0 Lore%: 0 Gallery%: 14 Options --------- ASCII: 0 Keyboard: 1 Movement: Numpad Fullscreen: 2 Font: 20/SmallcapsGlow Map View: 66x50 FOV Handling: Fade In

Other highlights:

Early game is scary because you have so few slots, but at least my weapons were pretty awesome before long!
(https://i.imgur.com/AG5YHqO.png) (https://i.imgur.com/AG5YHqO.png)

This Mni. Smartbomb I lucked into half way through the game carried me quite far.
(https://i.imgur.com/cn7sE69.png) (https://i.imgur.com/cn7sE69.png)

Coming out of Testing into -2/Research I was pretty much naked. Installing some trojans on a terminal at the entrance gave me the intel I needed to survive the first 200 turns, avoiding patrols and collecting gear in the proper order without being discovered. Then of course I still only had one weapon (a cannon, no less...) when a full squad of Swarmers showed up. With some amazing luck, I ducked into that room and killed all five in a row--five shots :D
(https://i.imgur.com/gPR5H6s.png) (https://i.imgur.com/gPR5H6s.png)

Still in the middle of rebuilding when another showed up... (at least my firepower had improved by then, though!)
(https://i.imgur.com/fsiVgnX.png) (https://i.imgur.com/fsiVgnX.png)

This corridor of death was really really annoying. It was obvious that's what it was from early on, but it was the path I needed to take. Every time I'd finally finish off a couple squads, more would come through.
(https://i.imgur.com/xAH4E80.png) (https://i.imgur.com/xAH4E80.png)

And eventually an intercept was sent in there, but I brought them down and took their EMDS. Ha! Got me into Access:
(https://i.imgur.com/kK3CAHl.png) (https://i.imgur.com/kK3CAHl.png)

There I took out another intercept, but I wasn't really equipped for it (I mean, hey, no inventory!), and by the time I took them out I didn't have enough left to deal with other patrols happening by, so... that was where things obviously were going to head downhill.

With a bunch of bots on my tail, I did try one of my favorite unarmed offensive tactics of "stand next to the big explody machine and wait for them to miss and annihilate everyone" :P Some of the pursuers were a bit too strong for that, though, haha.
(https://i.imgur.com/V44lkpH.png) (https://i.imgur.com/V44lkpH.png)

I was able to make it another couple hundred turns of just fleeing and searching for the exit before going down.

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.2] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: nuzcraft on May 27, 2017, 09:27:00 PM

This run took me farther than I've ever gone before, all the way up to -3/Testing! Early on, in -9/Storage, I found a stockpile of good flight units and thus my first flight run was born! I spent most of the time avoiding battles and working my way upwards. I shot myself in the foot when I ventured into -5/Extension. I decided to try tunneling to get around some bad guys and cave-ins killed my flight units :(. It felt downhill from there as I ran away from bigger, badder, and scarier dudes. Do you guys have any tips for the early/mid game that help as the baddies get tougher?

Here is my output:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Additionally, I'll post here when I get my vids uploaded.

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.2] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 27, 2017, 11:07:40 PM

Hehe, yeah most Cogminds have their furthest early runs with flight :)

You can't really do too much tunneling, except between rooms and nearby areas--long-distance tunneling will just get you trashed. You had the speed, but definitely make sure you rely on good sensors to avoid enemies, as well as machine hacking to get intel. Some of the useful hacks are Trojans, which you probably haven't fully discovered yet, but even common hacks like Access(Main) and Access(Branch) will help you out a lot to make sure you're at least headed in the right direction! (Doesn't look like you did any main hacks, and only one branch hack.)

(Also, flight builds should pretty much never go into Extension if they can detect it first :P)

There are a lot of other flight tactics, but I'm not an expert in that area.

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.2] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: nuzcraft on May 29, 2017, 09:27:54 AM

Thanks, I'll try that next time. I didn't get ahold of a hacking suite until fairly late, so many of my later level hacks just failed :(. I'm 100% drinking the sensor kool-aid. Being able to see what's around you is SO VALUABLE! I think I'll try a similar run with the next weekly seed, see what I can do. :o

EDIT: Here's the run if you're interested https://youtu.be/FDdatIgbpEM

Title: Re: Weekly Seed #83 [Beta 1.2] [Seed: LaserGravityApparatus]
Post by: Kyzrati on May 30, 2017, 02:56:05 AM

Intel/"infowar" is definitely a strong way to play. And yeah hacking main exits indirectly is incredibly hard without any hackware, but if you find it on a low-level terminal as a direct hack, it's usually good to try it since even without any hacking capability you can technically still succeed.

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