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Fixed Bugs & Non-Bugs / CTD in Zion.
« on: April 26, 2016, 09:44:53 PM »
Crash report incoming. Game crashes when you run into one of the NPC in Zion (the NPC looks like a z). Attached crash log and screenshot. Happy bugfixing.
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Fixed Bugs & Non-Bugs / Crash on stepping on trap in caves
« on: April 10, 2016, 09:00:23 PM »
Woot!! Another crash in the caves. Stepped on a bomb trap (near a non-functional grunt) in the lower caves and the game crashed. Attaching the crash log.
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General Discussion / Alpha 7/7b Discussions [SPOILER VERSION]
« on: March 23, 2016, 01:59:26 PM »
Note by Kyzrati:
Here's the place for feedback and discussion about the most recent releases, if you want to talk about something that doesn't really warrant a dedicated thread.
This is the open spoiler version, for discussions where you plan to talk about spoilery content and don't want to bother with spoiler tagging. Do not read this thread if you want to avoid spoilers! For non-spoiler discussion, feel free to use the non-spoiler discussion thread here.
Alpha 7 release notes and changelog.
(Plus the little 7b hotfix.)
Sorry for the confusion; back to the actual thread...
Ok. Revised opinion on alpha 7b:
Alien artifact : I went in with sensors and found the alien artifact, thanks for the hint. I was looking for things hiding in the walls, similar to the derelict army in wastes. Free slot evolution is always welcome. I assume, in the end, you get only one slot evolution instead of two when you ascend into access/-1. Ok. Back to alien artifacts. Are they all core expanders? Will we find any in the main complex?
Derelict logs: These are super useful. I found quite a few in my recent run. They revealed all the machine locations, a branch exit, security status and trap locations. It seems like derelict logs are consumable random hacks. I think it is a nice way to teach players the value of certain hacks that they will almost never attempt. For instance, inventory(components) is not worth burning a hacking attempt around late mid-game. But, if you can get it for free from a derelict log...
Derelict terminals: They seem to open doors. That's all I got. I did find a new item behind one of those doors. Tactical Co-ordination Suite.
Caves outposts: I had been relatively unlucky here. I saw a outpost with a reinforced blue wall thingy. But, I was running a speed build and the game crashed (alpha 7) and I died in my next attempt trying to get in there. I haven't been able to find that outpost again. I am guessing there is just loot/friends behind those walls? I found other outposts with a terminal with a bunch of grunts and swarmers guarding them. The terminal records were interesting. I suppose this is how we learn about recycling codes and such? I don't think those outposts are worth taking on if they don't give us any other advantage.
Caves difficulty : Caves does feel a bit like mines. So, not exactly easy mode all the time. The achilles heel for a combat cogmind seems to be propulsion. I don't usually carry a lot of backup propulsion. So, if you run out of those and if your salvage is going to self-destruct...that could be a problem. On other hand, the reason I got so much trouble was I just wouldn't leave until I had explored the entire place. I was always able to find the exit with ease. I am going to wait until alpha 8 before I form an opinion on this. It's really hard to judge as it is. I still love the self-destructing loot idea
.
Caves is also more tactically challenging. I am starting to feel that explosives are a must if you are going down there.
Other stuff:
Hunters are back to being scary. I think I am going to start running purely thermal/em builds from now on. Fighting against hunters with kinetics is just hopeless and I have lost a lot of good runs to them.
There is a weird bug(?) in the score sheet. It adds a extra zero after the last entry in Turns passed section. Right above prototype ids.
Extension: Is there a critical mass of allies to which the AI just responds by going nuts? My first alpha 7 run ended when I freed all the allies in the extension branch and the AI just sent demolishers and marksmen after me. My alert level wasn't that high and that kind of response was surprising. There is just no good way to protect your allies against demolishers and I just lost all of them. Poor 07.
Here's the place for feedback and discussion about the most recent releases, if you want to talk about something that doesn't really warrant a dedicated thread.
This is the open spoiler version, for discussions where you plan to talk about spoilery content and don't want to bother with spoiler tagging. Do not read this thread if you want to avoid spoilers! For non-spoiler discussion, feel free to use the non-spoiler discussion thread here.
Alpha 7 release notes and changelog.
(Plus the little 7b hotfix.)
Sorry for the confusion; back to the actual thread...
Ok. Revised opinion on alpha 7b:
Alien artifact : I went in with sensors and found the alien artifact, thanks for the hint. I was looking for things hiding in the walls, similar to the derelict army in wastes. Free slot evolution is always welcome. I assume, in the end, you get only one slot evolution instead of two when you ascend into access/-1. Ok. Back to alien artifacts. Are they all core expanders? Will we find any in the main complex?
Derelict logs: These are super useful. I found quite a few in my recent run. They revealed all the machine locations, a branch exit, security status and trap locations. It seems like derelict logs are consumable random hacks. I think it is a nice way to teach players the value of certain hacks that they will almost never attempt. For instance, inventory(components) is not worth burning a hacking attempt around late mid-game. But, if you can get it for free from a derelict log...
Derelict terminals: They seem to open doors. That's all I got. I did find a new item behind one of those doors. Tactical Co-ordination Suite.
Caves outposts: I had been relatively unlucky here. I saw a outpost with a reinforced blue wall thingy. But, I was running a speed build and the game crashed (alpha 7) and I died in my next attempt trying to get in there. I haven't been able to find that outpost again. I am guessing there is just loot/friends behind those walls? I found other outposts with a terminal with a bunch of grunts and swarmers guarding them. The terminal records were interesting. I suppose this is how we learn about recycling codes and such? I don't think those outposts are worth taking on if they don't give us any other advantage.
Caves difficulty : Caves does feel a bit like mines. So, not exactly easy mode all the time. The achilles heel for a combat cogmind seems to be propulsion. I don't usually carry a lot of backup propulsion. So, if you run out of those and if your salvage is going to self-destruct...that could be a problem. On other hand, the reason I got so much trouble was I just wouldn't leave until I had explored the entire place. I was always able to find the exit with ease. I am going to wait until alpha 8 before I form an opinion on this. It's really hard to judge as it is. I still love the self-destructing loot idea
.Caves is also more tactically challenging. I am starting to feel that explosives are a must if you are going down there.
Other stuff:
Hunters are back to being scary. I think I am going to start running purely thermal/em builds from now on. Fighting against hunters with kinetics is just hopeless and I have lost a lot of good runs to them.
There is a weird bug(?) in the score sheet. It adds a extra zero after the last entry in Turns passed section. Right above prototype ids.
Extension: Is there a critical mass of allies to which the AI just responds by going nuts? My first alpha 7 run ended when I freed all the allies in the extension branch and the AI just sent demolishers and marksmen after me. My alert level wasn't that high and that kind of response was surprising. There is just no good way to protect your allies against demolishers and I just lost all of them. Poor 07.
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General Discussion / What does alert(purge) actually do?
« on: January 20, 2016, 09:22:23 PM »
So, I had this run where I landed on -4 with a couple of good hacking utilities (Exp and Adv hacking suites) and an alert level which was hovering somewhere around 2. Luckily, I found this level 1 terminal around the entrance and executed alert(purge) about 6 times and got the message "no threat on record" and thought "Great!!". I also managed to hack the exit location.
Except, I walked out and faced resistance which I usually associate with higher alert levels. The programmer dispatch messages started showing up almost as soon as I explored 4~5 rooms. Though, that could be because I was on treads and the clock was ticking faster than I was moving. I ran into waves and waves of reddish grunts and sentries. The assault carriers followed pretty soon and I got whittled down. It was almost as if I didn't purge threats.
So, question about enemy spawns:
i) When a level is generated, does the alert level play a significant factor in the amount of enemies that are spawned in that level or does it only control the rate at which they show up afterwards?
ii) When I purge threat, do enemies actually exit the level in order to reflect the new alert level?
It could be that I was just facing the nominal resistance hanging out in -4 and being a baby about it. But, I am curious about how the alert level mechanic ties to enemy spawns. I was pretty salty losing that run after I hacked the exit location and purged a loooot of threat.
Except, I walked out and faced resistance which I usually associate with higher alert levels. The programmer dispatch messages started showing up almost as soon as I explored 4~5 rooms. Though, that could be because I was on treads and the clock was ticking faster than I was moving. I ran into waves and waves of reddish grunts and sentries. The assault carriers followed pretty soon and I got whittled down. It was almost as if I didn't purge threats.
So, question about enemy spawns:
i) When a level is generated, does the alert level play a significant factor in the amount of enemies that are spawned in that level or does it only control the rate at which they show up afterwards?
ii) When I purge threat, do enemies actually exit the level in order to reflect the new alert level?
It could be that I was just facing the nominal resistance hanging out in -4 and being a baby about it
. But, I am curious about how the alert level mechanic ties to enemy spawns. I was pretty salty losing that run after I hacked the exit location and purged a loooot of threat.5
Fixed Bugs & Non-Bugs / Signal Interpreter not identifying exits
« on: December 25, 2015, 12:49:51 AM »
I am not sure whether this is a bug, but this has happened to me multiple times. I found that the signal interpreters (the plain old one, not the advanced or the improved ones) do not identify where the stairs lead. This seems to be at odds with its description which specifically mentions that it allows for deciphering of signals emitted from the exit allowing us to identify them. I do remember the advanced and the improved ones let me identify the exit. It could be just that this functionality is restricted to the more advanced version of the signal interpreter. Change the description maybe??
edit: Never mind. My bad. You need to be adjacent to identify the exit. Never noticed it before.
edit: Never mind. My bad. You need to be adjacent to identify the exit. Never noticed it before.
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